Shows/1978-11-18 - Revision history

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Recording

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	Jon Savage, 2010<ref>https://archive.org/details/documenteyewitne0000tayl/page/126/mode/1up</ref><blockquote>The thing about the very early [[Rough Trade]] releases was that they weren't ideological in the way that later releases were. The Rough Trade aesthetic, such as it was, didn't really get going until later. It was the end of 1978 and into 1979 that it all started to get dry as dust, boring as dishwater. Somehow, dogmatic politics had crept into Rough Trade and started to strangle it. I remember just before I left London to go live in Manchester I went to a triple bill to see prag VEC, Red Crayola and Cabaret Voltaire. [[Mayo Thompson]] was there and I had thought early on that Mayo was going to be fun but by then he wasn't, he was spouting all this dogmatic crap. In the end I felt, politics is serious, but ''this'' is pop... Scritti Politti, prag VEC, The Raincoats, Red Crayola — I couldn't listen to the stuff in the end. I think the rigour of the politics squeezed everything else out.</blockquote>Richard H. Kirk of Cabaret Voltaire, 2010<ref>https://archive.org/details/documenteyewitne0000tayl/page/135/mode/1up</ref><blockquote>[...] One time Geoff [Travis] had been up to Sheffield and helped record something and we'd given him a dummy fader: he thought he was adding something but he wasn't really. When we'd played at the Acklam Hall with prag VEC and Red Crayola, I remember Jon Savage had come up to me and said, 'On no account let Geoff mix the sound,' which is what Geoff had wanted to do.</blockquote>		Jon Savage, 2010<ref>https://archive.org/details/documenteyewitne0000tayl/page/126/mode/1up</ref><blockquote>The thing about the very early [[Rough Trade]] releases was that they weren't ideological in the way that later releases were. The Rough Trade aesthetic, such as it was, didn't really get going until later. It was the end of 1978 and into 1979 that it all started to get dry as dust, boring as dishwater. Somehow, dogmatic politics had crept into Rough Trade and started to strangle it. I remember just before I left London to go live in Manchester I went to a triple bill to see prag VEC, Red Crayola and Cabaret Voltaire. [[Mayo Thompson]] was there and I had thought early on that Mayo was going to be fun but by then he wasn't, he was spouting all this dogmatic crap. In the end I felt, politics is serious, but ''this'' is pop... Scritti Politti, prag VEC, The Raincoats, Red Crayola — I couldn't listen to the stuff in the end. I think the rigour of the politics squeezed everything else out.</blockquote>Richard H. Kirk of Cabaret Voltaire, 2010<ref>https://archive.org/details/documenteyewitne0000tayl/page/135/mode/1up</ref><blockquote>[...] One time Geoff [Travis] had been up to Sheffield and helped record something and we'd given him a dummy fader: he thought he was adding something but he wasn't really. When we'd played at the Acklam Hall with prag VEC and Red Crayola, I remember Jon Savage had come up to me and said, 'On no account let Geoff mix the sound,' which is what Geoff had wanted to do.</blockquote>

	~~== Recording ==~~

	~~=== Scritti Politti ===~~
	* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnzuwsCW0dM Art Forever]
	== References ==		== References ==
	{{Shows\|1978}}		{{Shows\|1978}}

	[[Category:Shows]]		[[Category:Shows]]

Dotclub: /* Photos */

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Photos

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			== Listings ==

			=== Record Mirror ===
			November 18, 1978<ref>https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/Record-Mirror/70s/78/Record-Mirror-1978-11-18.pdf#page=33</ref>

	== Reviews ==		== Reviews ==

Dotclub at 06:26, 27 June 2023

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	== Retrospectives ==		== Retrospectives ==
	Jon Savage, 2010<ref>https://archive.org/details/documenteyewitne0000tayl/page/126/mode/1up</ref><blockquote>The thing about the very early [[Rough Trade]] releases was that they weren't ideological in the way that later releases were. The Rough Trade aesthetic, such as it was, didn't really get going until later. It was the end of 1978 and into 1979 that it all started to get dry as dust, boring as dishwater. Somehow, dogmatic politics had crept into Rough Trade and started to strangle it. I remember just before I left London to go live in Manchester I went to a triple bill to see prag VEC, Red Crayola and Cabaret Voltaire. [[Mayo Thompson]] was there and I had thought early on that Mayo was going to be fun but by then he wasn't, he was spouting all this dogmatic crap. In the end I felt, politics is serious, but ''this'' is pop... Scritti Politti, prag VEC, The Raincoats, Red Crayola — I couldn't listen to the stuff in the end. I think the rigour of the politics squeezed everything else out.</blockquote>		Jon Savage, 2010<ref>https://archive.org/details/documenteyewitne0000tayl/page/126/mode/1up</ref><blockquote>The thing about the very early [[Rough Trade]] releases was that they weren't ideological in the way that later releases were. The Rough Trade aesthetic, such as it was, didn't really get going until later. It was the end of 1978 and into 1979 that it all started to get dry as dust, boring as dishwater. Somehow, dogmatic politics had crept into Rough Trade and started to strangle it. I remember just before I left London to go live in Manchester I went to a triple bill to see prag VEC, Red Crayola and Cabaret Voltaire. [[Mayo Thompson]] was there and I had thought early on that Mayo was going to be fun but by then he wasn't, he was spouting all this dogmatic crap. In the end I felt, politics is serious, but ''this'' is pop... Scritti Politti, prag VEC, The Raincoats, Red Crayola — I couldn't listen to the stuff in the end. I think the rigour of the politics squeezed everything else out.</blockquote>Richard H. Kirk of Cabaret Voltaire, 2010<ref>https://archive.org/details/documenteyewitne0000tayl/page/135/mode/1up</ref><blockquote>[...] One time Geoff [Travis] had been up to Sheffield and helped record something and we'd given him a dummy fader: he thought he was adding something but he wasn't really. When we'd played at the Acklam Hall with prag VEC and Red Crayola, I remember Jon Savage had come up to me and said, 'On no account let Geoff mix the sound,' which is what Geoff had wanted to do.</blockquote>

	== Recording ==		== Recording ==

Dotclub at 06:18, 27 June 2023

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	Excerpt:<blockquote>In the collapse of trends, movements — individuals: when they combine, all the stronger. Tonight four bands moving forward, confidently or haltingly, but all with a spark... all ripe to be scooped up, then pigeonholed in a new "trend", the very last thing any of them want. [...]</blockquote>		Excerpt:<blockquote>In the collapse of trends, movements — individuals: when they combine, all the stronger. Tonight four bands moving forward, confidently or haltingly, but all with a spark... all ripe to be scooped up, then pigeonholed in a new "trend", the very last thing any of them want. [...]</blockquote>

			== Retrospectives ==
			Jon Savage, 2010<ref>https://archive.org/details/documenteyewitne0000tayl/page/126/mode/1up</ref><blockquote>The thing about the very early [[Rough Trade]] releases was that they weren't ideological in the way that later releases were. The Rough Trade aesthetic, such as it was, didn't really get going until later. It was the end of 1978 and into 1979 that it all started to get dry as dust, boring as dishwater. Somehow, dogmatic politics had crept into Rough Trade and started to strangle it. I remember just before I left London to go live in Manchester I went to a triple bill to see prag VEC, Red Crayola and Cabaret Voltaire. [[Mayo Thompson]] was there and I had thought early on that Mayo was going to be fun but by then he wasn't, he was spouting all this dogmatic crap. In the end I felt, politics is serious, but ''this'' is pop... Scritti Politti, prag VEC, The Raincoats, Red Crayola — I couldn't listen to the stuff in the end. I think the rigour of the politics squeezed everything else out.</blockquote>

	== Recording ==		== Recording ==

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	== Photos ==		== Photos ==

			=== The Red Crayola ===
	Photos by Shirley O'Loughlin		Photos by Shirley O'Loughlin

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 === Scritti Politti ===
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 == References ==
 {{Shows|1978}}
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imported>Dotclub at 08:54, 9 May 2023

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	== References ==		== References ==
	{{Shows}}		{{Shows\|1978}}

	[[Category:Shows]]		[[Category:Shows]]

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	File:Shows-1978-11-18-Cabaret-Voltaire2.jpg\|Cabaret Voltaire		File:Shows-1978-11-18-Cabaret-Voltaire2.jpg\|Cabaret Voltaire<ref>https://twitter.com/HighRiseHero/status/1465257548676833280</ref>
	File:Shows-1978-11-18-Cabaret-Voltaire.jpg\|Cabaret Voltaire by the show poster<ref>https://www.facebook.com/LDNMoorgate/photos/a.1401226749969427/3687727384652674/</ref>		File:Shows-1978-11-18-Cabaret-Voltaire.jpg\|Cabaret Voltaire by the show poster<ref>https://www.facebook.com/LDNMoorgate/photos/a.1401226749969427/3687727384652674/</ref>
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	File:Shows-1978-11-18-Cabaret-Voltaire.jpg\|Cabaret Voltaire by the show poster<ref>https://www.facebook.com/LDNMoorgate/photos/a.1401226749969427/3687727384652674/</ref>		File:Shows-1978-11-18-Cabaret-Voltaire.jpg\|Cabaret Voltaire by the show poster<ref>https://www.facebook.com/LDNMoorgate/photos/a.1401226749969427/3687727384652674/</ref>
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